Syria air strikes

[rigsby]

By "the usual comrades" I assume you mean the people who have consistently suggested we need to be helping these people, even if it means taking them into Europe? Can I ask how you think blowing these people up will help their lot?

Who do you mean by these and remind when I said anything about blowing 'these' people up.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Even if there was a Chapter 7 resolution you would argue against for no other reason than to get a reaction, so spare us the morality bollocks.[/QUOTE

Haven't seen much of you (or Callan) on the Oldham by-election thread,have we? :winking:

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

What is it about Rigsby's reply that appeals to you?

Why are you asking?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Watched a good documentary about the Kurds fighting ISIS. Some really tough and brave fighters including the women. When they had a later update most of them were dead.

By the way Don't expect any of the usual comrades to comment on your story. Tyson Fury ...yes. UKIP... yes. Mass rape....er sorry no it was by Muslims so I'll avoid the question. Then tell you its all because of Western policy.

You let your paranoia get the better of you and result is someone who pre-writes replies to their own posts because you think you can read people's thoughts when the reality is you have no understanding of the way others think.


A very basic understanding of the 'left' would tell you that:


They are often atheist and therefore see Muslims as human beings no better or worse than any other religious people.


Are often feminists so extremely unlikely to see rape as an acceptable crime whoever commits it


Are often able to recognise that terrorists choose that path but there are triggers that will tip people into choosing that level of violence that under different circumstances may not be realised






I don't understand how someone can contribute the useful information in the first part of your post and then derail any respect you just generated with the second part which is completely clueless and antagonistic.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Even if there was a Chapter 7 resolution you would argue against for no other reason than to get a reaction, so spare us the morality bollocks.[/QUOTE

Haven't seen much of you (or Callan) on the Oldham by-election thread,have we? :winking:

I'd really get that senility checked out, I haven't been a member of UKIP since June/July time, as I posted on this very site. So I really couldn't give a rats arse about the result. Cast that line somewhere else Patriot.

 

[mrsblue]

You have heard of arms dealers I presume and as ISIS was partly born out of former Iraq officers then it's a fair bet that part of their hardware came from army caches. As for Paris, the MO will almost always be the same, bomb and maim as many civilians as possible and when using assault rifles, shoot as many as possible.

Rightly or wrongly, Assad is killing his own people, ISIS are killing all and sundry and not just in Syria. And yes, I do think they are as dangerous because they are everywhere and Assad is not.

Load of tripe !

You or I or anyone else only read or hear what we are told by the media,French government knew the attackers,British government knew the London bombers and the Lee Rigby killers,what does that tell you.

 

[londonblue]

Not just me.All those who've opposed the bombing have argued for a chapter 7 UN resolution from the start.

That's not what you said.

 

[londonblue]

Naps, they've had a ****eload of bombs dropped on them already.....they're still doing it. It isn't making one iota of difference, at least not for the good.

How do you know it wouldn't be worse though?

 

[Benfleet A1]

Load of tripe !

You or I or anyone else only read or hear what we are told by the media,French government knew the attackers,British government knew the London bombers and the Lee Rigby killers,what does that tell you.

What it tells me is you read and believe far too many conspiracy theories, Disinformation will give you hours of fun. As for the French and British authorities knowing the attackers of Paris and Lee Rigby, it's a watch list and neither government has the manpower or resources to watch 24/7. They slipped through the net and unless you live in North Korea, more will in all probability slip through again.

Read a little Frederick Forsyth for some information on arms dealing and gun running. He led a different life before becoming an author.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Why are you asking?

Hopefully my subsequent post will explain

 

[Bkdside]

Some of you might've enjoyed a critical theory evening yesterday at the Railway pub in town...discussing/debating the influence of media and the role it plays in creating an enemy prior to justification for war.

 

[leeblue]

Some of you might've enjoyed a critical theory evening yesterday at the Railway pub in town...discussing/debating the influence of media and the role it plays in creating an enemy prior to justification for war.

This is exactly how we have got here.:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[leeblue]

I understand our first target was......go on you know.....oil facilities.......can't have anyone else selling it now. I understand this may cost isis a few quid but how this stops radicalised Muslims around the world I can not see.

 

[Pubey]

I understand our first target was......go on you know.....oil facilities.......can't have anyone else selling it now. I understand this may cost isis a few quid but how this stops radicalised Muslims around the world I can not see.

and how come the French, US, Russians etc hadn't already spotted this key ISIL oil facility?! The whole thing is a charade and an exorbitant waste of taxpayers money.

 

[Firestorm]

and how come the French, US, Russians etc hadn't already spotted this key ISIL oil facility?! The whole thing is a charade and an exorbitant waste of taxpayers money.

the US had already bombed it according to the article I read yesterday.
I can only assume that it was still operating and it required more strikes on key instalations within the facilty.

Still doesnt quite stack up though.

 

[leeblue]

This current debacle is easily traced back to when Libya Russia Syria and I think Iran planed ro stop using the petro dollar for oil trading and use another currency. Uncle sam had to keep the world's wealth flowing in one direction.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I'd really get that senility checked out, I haven't been a member of UKIP since June/July time, as I posted on this very site. So I really couldn't give a rats arse about the result. Cast that line somewhere else Patriot.

I didn't say anywhere you were still a UKIP member.Though I'm suprised to hear you didn't care about the by-election result.Personally I was delighted.

(Btw,both my short term and long term memory are fine,thanks).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

That's not what you said.

It may not be what I said but it's certainly what I meant.

 

[londonblue]

It may not be what I said but it's certainly what I meant.

Moving the goalposts yet again.

 

[leeblue]

I see we bombed the same oil facility again....I feel so much safer today. Thanks dave et al.