The Labour Assassins and The Tory victory.

[dloman]

Interesting article here in "The New Statesman" on how Labour broke the NHS. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/how-labour-broke-nhs-and-why-labour-must-fix-it - probably best not to go into the Welsh NHS or Mid Staffs for that matter both when under Labour rule.

 

[Benfleet A1]

The true face of socialism, don't tell me this shower believe in democracy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074951/Socialist-siege-Downing-Street-Hard-left-activists-clash-police-following-David-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html

Justify this.

 

[RHB]

The true face of socialism, don't tell me this shower believe in democracy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html

Justify this.

Nobody can justify what took place there, and no they obviously don't believe in democracy. I genuinely hope they get all they deserve as a result. I don't see how it is the true face of socialism though, any more than kids letting of smoke bombs and kicking hoardings is the true face of Southend United.

 

[Firestorm]

The true face of socialism, don't tell me this shower believe in democracy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074951/Socialist-siege-Downing-Street-Hard-left-activists-clash-police-following-David-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html

Justify this.

they are as much to do with the majority socialists as the EDL are to do with Conservatives.
irreprehensible thugs , violence is not something most socialists feel has a place in a civilised society.

 

[OldBlueLady]

The true face of socialism, don't tell me this shower believe in democracy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html

Justify this.

People who feel the need to hide behind masks, scarves or balaclavas are there for one reason only - rent-a-thugs. Utter cowardice and totally disrespectful of the sacrifices made so scum like this can walk the streets of England. :sad:

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

The true face of socialism, don't tell me this shower believe in democracy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-Cameron-s-triumphant-return-Number-10.html

Justify this.

No one on here will justify this because it has nothing to do with the left wingers on Shrimperzone - it's a rabble of anarchists and SWP. The Mail only managed to come up with one tweet that was backing it - I have no idea who the woman is that they quoted.
EDL were out in Walthamstow today - right wing scum that have nothing to so with the right wing on Shrimperzone.....since Rusty stopped posting.

 

[OldBlueLady]

EDL were out in Walthamstow today - right wing scum that have nothing to so with the right wing on Shrimperzone.....since Rusty stopped posting.

Rusty would have condemned the actions of those delinquents I am quite sure.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Rusty would have condemned the actions of those delinquents I am quite sure.

But not the EDL, and that makes him worse than all of the rest of us as we all condemn the trouble makers in Westminster and Walthamstow.

 

[superblue24]

I miss rusty :(

 

[Benfleet A1]

But not the EDL, and that makes him worse than all of the rest of us as we all condemn the trouble makers in Westminster and Walthamstow.

i have met Rusty and the best way to describe him would be to quote John Lydon, 'Ever get the feeling you've been cheated'

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Which you seem to have a major problem with if it hasn't come down in favour of Labour. Love the way you assume Number 11 is a tory, seem to remember that backfiring once before. Some people never learn.

If he's not, (as Paddy Ashdown said), I'll eat my (marzipan) hat.:winking:

[video]https://youtu.be/s76mkRRGPZA[/video]

Hope you (and your right-wing chums ) like this song,btw.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Brilliant. I'm not on twitter but I'm sure there is an appropriate hashtag to use here......

On the user name, I literally have no idea what you are on about.

Then clearly you haven't played enough or watched enough football.Clue: number 7 would be a left-winger.

On My political views, I love the fact that anyone who posts something disagreeing with you, pointing out your hypocrisy or bigotry or challenges what you say is immediately categorised. I'd find it a sad world if I only saw things in such a binary way.

I don't mind being called left-wing, (which I am), but not a hypocrite or a bigot (which I'm not).

My satisfaction was with labour not winning the election as I personally couldn't trust THIS labour regime to run our country. I've already expressed many times that there is a sorry state of options and none that I would 'champion' or bang on about how great they are.

Quite frankly, I don't really think of GB as my country anymore and I haven't for some time now.

I had the great good luck/foresight to leave in 1978 and although I did come back for a year in 80/81,one year under Thatcher ,was more than enough to convince me that I didn't want to live in the UK anymore.

So your assumption is way off.

You yourself have already agreed with me that labour didn't convince of their capability.

Now what's that hashtag......

That is the only truthful comment you've made here.

I really don't know why you pretend not to be, what you clearly are, ie a right-wing Tory.

 

[number11]

Maybe you will have to ask Ryan Giggs why he kept lining up on the wrong side of the pitch....:hilarious

Anyway, to keep things from going off track here, so in essence, whilst you are free to live your life making assumptions about peoples views (often wrongly, amusingly and embarrassingly so from your post above) the upshot is that you agree with the point I was making that labour failed to convince of their capability.

Thanks for that.

Now back to the original point cricko was making, the posts above about the violent and reprehensible acts merely show that the honesty and decency are not the preserve of one side of the spectrum or the other. To assume some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others) is off the mark.

 

[Firestorm]

Maybe you will have to ask Ryan Giggs why he kept lining up on the wrong side of the pitch....:hilarious

Anyway, to keep things from going off track here, so in essence, whilst you are free to live your life making assumptions about peoples views (often wrongly, amusingly and embarrassingly so from your post above) the upshot is that you agree with the point I was making that labour failed to convince of their capability.

Thanks for that.

Now back to the original point cricko was making, the posts above about the violent and reprehensible acts merely show that the honesty and decency are not the preserve of one side of the spectrum or the other. To assume some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others) is off the mark.

Did anyone say that some people voted based on one issue ? Or that there were issues being prioritised differently.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Maybe you will have to ask Ryan Giggs why he kept lining up on the wrong side of the pitch

....:hilarious

I stand corrected.Maths never was my strong point.:facepalm:

Anyway, to keep things from going off track here, so in essence, whilst you are free to live your life making assumptions about peoples views (often wrongly, amusingly and embarrassingly so from your post above) the upshot is that you agree with the point I was making that labour failed to convince of their capability.

Thanks for that.

Now back to the original point cricko was making, the posts above about the violent and reprehensible acts merely show that the honesty and decency are not the preserve of one side of the spectrum or the other.

To assume some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others) is off the mark

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I challenge you to find any post of mine where I have assumed or suggested that "some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others)".

Personally,I've never had any time for the politics of envy.

 

[number11]

Did anyone say that some people voted based on one issue ? Or that there were issues being prioritised differently.

There seemed to be an assertion from some that voting blue equalled voting selfishly.

Barna, I never said you did, you seem to be agreeing with me on this point.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Maybe you will have to ask Ryan Giggs why he kept lining up on the wrong side of the pitch....:hilarious

Anyway, to keep things from going off track here, so in essence, whilst you are free to live your life making assumptions about peoples views (often wrongly, amusingly and embarrassingly so from your post above) the upshot is that you agree with the point I was making that labour failed to convince of their capability.

Thanks for that.

Now back to the original point cricko was making, the posts above about the violent and reprehensible acts merely show that the honesty and decency are not the preserve of one side of the spectrum or the other. To assume some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others) is off the mark.

There seemed to be an assertion from some that voting blue equalled voting selfishly.

Barna, I never said you did, you seem to be agreeing with me on this point.

I certainly agree with the two points I've bolded above.

 

[mrsblue]

The Labour inquest,they still don't get it !

They allowed immigration en masse,they also created jobs favouring immigrants.
Edstone proved they are not responsible to govern.
Balls was the ultimate ticking time bomb .
Ed refusing to believe they had spent too much when in government.

They probably chose the wrong brother too.

 

[number11]

I certainly agree with the two points I've bolded above.

Thank you.

 

[rigsby]

I challenge you to find any post of mine where I have assumed or suggested that "some people voted based on one issue (extent of selfishness or care for others)".

Personally,I've never had any time for the politics of envy.

I thought that was the whole point of being a Marxist. Look at your friends defacing the war memorials absolutely full of hate and envy