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What plans are we expecting to see at midday, we have already seen them?
Not sure. It looks like it's been edited out now, anyway.
What plans are we expecting to see at midday, we have already seen them?
What plans are we expecting to see at midday, we have already seen them?
Im in the laymen camp but there is no way this doesnt need to go back to square one planning wise.
Whats a balancing pond ? (Excuse me if I'm being dumb) is it simply an environmental thing ?
Deegan's shorts ?I've got a semi.
Whats a balancing pond ? (Excuse me if I'm being dumb) is it simply an environmental thing ?
Just had a quick look on Google maps streetview and there is an existing vehicular access to Sutton Road where the tree lined walkway is - I wonder if they will continue to use this for access to Jones Memorial Ground parking on non-matchdays or will use this as a bargaining chip in the highways negotiations (turn this into pedestrian access only will make Sutton Road safer)?
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I would imagine (and this is only a guess) that the park and ride scheme buses will drop people off along Sutton Road, and people would make use of the walkway.
One question I do have is where is the hotel? We have hotel parking, but no hotel! I assume the hotel is incorporated into the main stand, but it doesn't say that. I guess we'll have to wait until midday...
Whats a balancing pond ? (Excuse me if I'm being dumb) is it simply an environmental thing ?
It's where you put the floating duck house you get from expenses.
One big thing not being mentioned is who will benefit from the sale of the site of Roots Hall and what is now likely to be built there now it appears Sainsbury are out of the picture.
If it's going to be the Club and it could be released for residential development then that could well be the driving factor for the completion of the stadium. IIRC correctly the Roots Hall site is a tad over 11 acres, you can get a lot of residential on 11 acres.....
To summarize:
The laymen & women (Victors & Victorias particularly) suggest its back to square one
Those who know what they are talking about through their professional capacity suggest actually changes probably not so big, likely won't be called in so not back to square one.
Who to believe? One is bad news, one is better news? Do we like bad news more? Yep we are back to square one..
Don't know how detailed the plans are for the design of the new stadium but the one on view looks a rather soulless boring bowl. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers, I suppose!
Actually looks like quite a decent masterplan to me. I see no reason why this would generate too many dissenting voices in the Council Chambers., but then I develop stadiums...I'm not a planner.
Parking provision looks massively undercooked for that footprint of stadium imho. I think the Club should be proactively working with the Council to look at the feasibility of delivering park and ride sites on the periphery of town - God only knows the existing road infrastructure is exceeding capacity, and nothing more can be done to relieve the issues on both the 127 and A13.
By the by, the stadium parking looks like grasscrete, so it can actually be used as flexible space quite easily (and it is cheaper than surfacing what is quite a large area).
On the development partner, the involvement of British Land is a hugely positive step - don't suffer fools gladly, and will want to capitalise on any investment opportunity sooner rather than later, as the commercial and residential market is very buoyant in Southend at present, and looks like it will continue on an upward curve for some time to come, which will obviously have a major impact on build cost.
You are correct that we need a new planning application for this as it is materially different to what has already been approved. However I don't agree that we are "back to square one" as the approval following the previous enquiry and more recent changes to Government planning policy means that the new application should have a much shorter and less bumpy journey!
the other one was like that but had a lid on it (and a tail)